![]() ![]() After all, they are somewhat limited by the design, right? Because you can swap barrels & calibers, that means all barrels must be the same length, etc. Hmm, I'm not sure that's necessarily true though. There is an argument to be had that the versatility might even be worth it if it's not quite as flat or doesn't return to zero as well, but if it IS just as flat, then that makes it more of a no brainer since you're getting more for your money. The versatility of being able to switch barrels is super appealing, but $5000-$6000 is a lot of money. I'm mostly just curious to see whether anyone has had the chance to compare to other high end 2011s, like Atlas & Limcat. I think a lot of people would like to have the option of using a Trijicon RMR or the new SRO or the Holosun 507C (same footprint as the RMR/SRO). It would be cool if they offered different mounting plates for the 3 gun slide ride version though. Atlas & Tevo both make mounts for it, & Cheely is working on one. IMO, the 510C is the best reflex optic on the market right now (crisp dot, largest window, green dot option). you are just gaining a ton of versatility and value. IF you wanted to change to a Holosun, you could swap the mount for any standard pattern optic mount.īottom line is, you really aren't giving up ANYTHING with the Honcho, shoot-ability, function, options, or otherwise. The current included optic mount will also allow you to use the Vortex, a Cmore RTS2, or a DPP. My wife has several Open guns, some with holes, some with hybrid barrels, etc, she much prefers the way her Honcho shoots. If it needed or would have benefited from some of the attributes you listed, they most likely would have been included. There was a TON of time and testing (from several shooters) put into making the Honcho shoot great. It it one of the softest shooting, least violent Open guns I've ever shot. You shouldn't have any concerns of how the Honcho "feels" or shoots. Wondering if anyone has had a chance to actually compare how they shoot and has any thoughts about flatness/return to zero/etc. Overall, I'm super interested in the Honcho because of its versatility, but there are trade-offs. Does anyone know whether or not the open major version's frame mount holes are the common pattern? Could you buy an Atlas mount for a Holoson 510C (or whatever) and use it on the Honcho? The mounts are only for Vortex optics, and they haven't said anything about offering alternative plates/mounts for other optics. Other downsides to the Honcho: not much flexibility when it comes to optics. but a side effect of this is you can actually run minor 9mm ammo in the open barrel w/ comp without problems (seen in a few youtube videos), which is cool if you want to use it for more than just open. For example, Atlas cuts down the slide to 4.6" for faster cycling, and there are no barrel popple holes on the Honcho like there are on the RazorCat & Chaos, no fixed island comp on the minor 9mm version like on the Erebus (or Omni/DVC-P), etc. However, does the Honcho actually shoot as flat? It seems like the versatility comes at the cost of some refinement/details. There's also the fact that many other companies, including Atlas, use the Phoenix Trinity Evo grip. You simply don't get this with the competitors. Purely from a value-for-the-money perspective, the Honcho is pretty tempting, since it can run both major and minor 9mm, different calibers, etc. Looking for your next durable Toyota to tackle the unknown? Have a look at the thousands of new and used models on CARmag’s listings platform here.Has anyone here had the opportunity to try both a Honcho and a Limcat RazorCat or Atlas Chaos/Erebus? This may be a future legacy for Toyota in emerging markets and on the African continent, good call? Time will tell. ![]() This, will all unfold by 2025/2026 when the model is expected to come to market. ![]() Theron further adds that the baby Hilux will be produced in South Africa and considering the vital Prospecton plant in Durban is a multi-model assembly line, it would logically occur there. ![]() “As part of TTC’s ‘Industrialisation in Africa’ pillar, Durban will be positioned as a ‘mother factory’ to the rest of the continent, where parts and vehicle distribution can be further expanded into Sub-Saharan Africa,” stated Shinichiro Otsuka, Chief Operating Officer for TTC Africa Region. The current manufacturing and distribution infrastructure within the country will be key for ensuring the rest of the continent can develop sustainably. In addition to the new direction of Toyota, South Africa has been identified as a key location for Toyota Global’s future African plans. ![]()
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